that president obama is not serious about negotiating. reporting live from washington, d.c., alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:17. we asked some people in the bay area whether they think the president and congress will reach an agreement on the fiscal cliff by the end of the year. >> they both have this position that they are not willing to back down from. i don't think they will reach it. >> i'm hoping and praying that they do come together. >> i think this is all kind of a shadow dance that's going on and i'm not sure exactly what's going on in the background. but i think the whole fiscal cliff is wildly exaggerated. >> a pew washington post poll shows more americans think the president and congress will not come to an agreement on how to avoid the fiscal cliff by the end of the year. 49% to 40%. >>> although the nhl season is still on ice, hockey will return to the hp pavilion in san jose. that's because the minor league will play a game december 17th there. they will take on the stockton thunder. the sharks say their season ticketholders can receive complimentary passes.
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